Monday, July 21, 2008

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After not having written for a longer time I can say that I spent the time on a very interesting and usefull matter:

In the beginning of the week I worked on some missing packages for our already some weeks old release 4.0.83 which still is the most recent release before the next major version 4.1. I rebuild kdegraphics and added new packages for kdeutils, kdemultimedia and kdepim. Especially interesting is kdemultimedia as I fixed phonon the weekend before and so KDE windows platform supports sound output now. Kdepim was really easy since KDAB has fixed nearly everything (except the packaging bugs that I introduced;-)).

Then somehow Carlo Segato (_Brandon_) came to the idea that he could take another look again at plasma. I tried this before but I didn't invest a lot of time and so it was still unknown which wonders were awaiting us there. After _Brandon_ came through really well and most of the problems I hit last time had magically vanished (thanks to aseigo probably) _Brandon_ showed me the first picture of the analog clock on windows:



This was just the start and after working for two more days, a lot of plasmoids have been built. The most interesting thing was that even the plasma desktop(the containment) was not very hard to fix and so only two days after we started the first efforts "the world's coolest geek toy(tm)" is available on Windows too:



There is still a lot to do as e.g. the panel is still not at the place where it should be and some of the classes have been simply disabled. Some obvious bugs are existing as well:
Rotating plasmoids doesn't work, some of your favourite plasmoids might be missing etc.
Nevertheless I put up some preview packages for kdebase-workspace(which contains plasma desktop), kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-playground (which both contain additional widgets). To get the desktop, simply run plasma.exe from kderoot\bin.

Please keep in mind that those packages are previews; Bug reports in bugs.kde.org are still unwanted!

As this was a really historic moment for me, I want to thank all those Persons that made this post possible for the one reason or the other!

(to be naming some that come to my mind: Aaron Seigo, Carlo Segato, Pau Garcia de Quiles, Christian Ehrlicher and Ralf Habacker, Anne-Marie Mahfouf and Jeremy Whiting, our users and all those of course that didn't came to my mind).

54 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's really amazing. And one more thing ... does this mean that you can already run KDE panels instead of Windows' ones? Not that I use Windows, but this might be an interesting concept.

Anonymous said...

Nice job!
IMHO the KDE Windows port is currently the most importand construction site.

Anonymous said...

great job!
one question:
does that mean, that it will be possible to use plasma.exe as a windows shell replacement?

Anonymous said...

is that plasma replacing the windows desktop? I can see definite possibilities with how I work in the office where I'm stuck on XP. The idea of being able to use folderviews has great potential

Anonymous said...

Great work, Patrick and the rest of the crew !

Looking forward to see you at Akademy :-)

Alex

Anonymous said...

Wow this looks very cool to me. But how can I test it, are there any prepackaged binarys I can download?

SaroEngels said...

ok, packages are available for the kdewin-installer, see techbase. plasma can be used as a shell replacement but it is far from complete for that purpose yet+I haven't tried it out yet.

shamaz said...

This is indeed an historic moment :O
I can't believe (and actually never expected) what I'm seeing : the whole plasma desktop on windows O_O.

This is a great achievement. For the kde-win team AND for the plasma team (because this is a tremendous proof that plasma is really well designed)

congratulations !

Anonymous said...

offtopic but... is there any way to globally reduce the size of fonts used by kde4 apps on windows?
btw, congrats for the mayor achievement :-)

Lucian said...

Any plans, thoughts or dreams to make this true for mac as well? Dashboard is awful.

zbog said...

"plasma can be used as a shell replacement but it is far from complete for that purpose yet+I haven't tried it out yet."

You suggest that plasma can become a cross-platform desktop shell. Is this true? If so it'll be marvelous!

As I understand it, all components of KDE will be able to run cross-platform. This is a major breakthrough for KDE!

I am an Ubuntu user, but I still like the idea that we will be able to offer KWin composite effects on Windows (2000, XP, Vista...).

If so I am sure a Mac OS X port of plasma & KWin will come close.

kwilliam said...

I never expected Plasma to run on Windows! In fact, I recall it being said specifically that the Plasma desktop would be a *nix-only feature. This is truly a pleasant surprise! Plasma can already run Plasmoids, Mac OSX widgets and Google gadgets... add Yahoo! Widgets and this would be the King Kong of widget platforms! Truly, this is the best thing to happen to Windows since Firefox! Boy, just wait till everybody starts seeing what Open Source software can do. I don't think this will slow Linux adoption, but rather it will get millions more people interested in Open Source. Just make sure the Windows version of Plasma doesn't get cooler than the Linux version!

@zbog: Slow down zbog! Nobody has said anything about the KWin window manager on Windows yet. Don't get your hopes up. I seriously doubt the Windows window manager can be overridden. (Of course, I didn't think Plasma would run either-you never know!)

Brandon said...

@lucian
it shouldn't be a problem to compile/run plasma on mac too, maybe it just need some minor fixes

@zbog
I doubt we will ever port kwin to windows because it should probably be completely rewritten rather than ported like we did with plasma

Kyle Cunningham said...

Even though there wouldn't be KWin, having Plasma as a windows shell would be absolutely awesome. It would be great to be able to move between operating systems with only minor changes in desktop environments. Very cool!

Anonymous said...

Nice job guys!
I'll go to try it right away.

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But how can I install it,test it?
I don't see plasma.exe

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